Help us improve Backlinks

Hey Everyone! :remnote:

We’re doing some improvements to the backlinks feature in RemNote to make it aesthetically pleasing and more intuitive for new users.

If you have 2 mins, please complete the missions in this UI Test to help us improve the backlinks feature.

Happy learning!

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nice method for gathering intuitive UI response from users

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I did the UI Test but didn’t leave written feedback, so I’ll leave it here:

What’s wrong with backlinks now? The popup could be made less ugly and more legible, but the current solution–the small box with the number of backlinks–is a lot nicer than the proposed changes in the test. Please don’t clutter up the interface in order to make it “friendlier.”

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Love the new UI.
Leave one comment: show all the child rems(or top 2 levels) for refered rem.
Also, please send this in Discord Server for more responses.

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Since there was no option I like presented, I’ll just type up my suggestions here.

The current triangles to the left of the portals are just fine, naturally following regular rem. I assume the problem is that the entire text label is interactive and the three dots menu is forced to be on the different line, but I would just move the three dots to the left of the arrow, again by analogy with regular rem. Definitely don’t break the across-the-app convention of “controls to the left of rem” for this single element.

As far as expanding hidden children, the entire system around that is so mysterious at the moment as to make the specifics meaningless - I’m fairly certain 99% of people don’t hide rem manually, preferring to fold, and get surprised whenever that text pops up. I would return the old behaviour of showing the number of hidden children directly under the parent rem rather than stuffing it at the bottom and using only the fatter bullet with a downward triangle on the parent as an indicator that not everything was unfolded.

Definitely nice to see more often openly soliciting feedback before pushing new changes.

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I’m fairly certain that 99% of people find the auto-hiding incredibly annoying.

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I couldn’t agree more with the “toggle on the left” set up. As you say, it’s what we’ve come to expect for every Rem, so why would the References be any different?
As for the hidden children, I still don’t understand what this is for. It feels like someone else has been editing my work which feels invasive. On top of that, it does not appear consistent, so I find myself unhiding everything just to see what was hidden. Maybe there’s an explanation for it, but I’m yet to see that described anywhere in a way that I agree with, or how to turn it off.

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Hi, @andresleon. I would like to provide some improvements to the rem reference.backlinks. There are two types of rem references.

This is the first type and you can link two themes together

  • [[theme1]] … [[theme2]]…
    • for example, [[Earth]] is one of the planets in our [[solar system]]

This is the second type

  • [[Theme1]]
    • some notes about this theme
    • some notes about this theme

or

  • [[Theme1]] [[theme2]]
    • some notes about this theme

With this type of rem reference, you can write down ideas about the theme whenever and wherever you want. The main purpose of this rem reference is that you can view your ideas via backlinks in the theme page.

But there is a problem here. This is backlink of the rem reference in RemNote

image

You can see that all the backlinks are only shown at the [[Theme]] level. This presentation doesn’t provide enough information, and the most important ideas are hidden

For this type of rem reference, you have to manually expand it each time to see the notes in it

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You can refer to Roam Research for improvement of backlinks, they do a good job. They distinguish between types of rem references, and display differently in backlinks

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