Existing Rem not found, but later found

got the same Problem => Search is not including all Constructs/Rems

I’m a new user and have been having this exact problem. I wasn’t sure if I was just misunderstanding some important distinction between certain rems that show up in search vs. not, but it looks like I’m not alone with this problem.

The most recent example that led to me searching for this just now is that I was trying to tag a rem with “##Image,” which I created and used yesterday, and literally nothing showed up in the search except for the times I used the word “image” in text. It doesn’t show no matter how I search—via ##, [[, or even CMD + P.

I was almost certainly going to be buying the lifetime plan after my trial is up, but when functionality as critical as search doesn’t even work, it really makes me worried that core features like finding every reference won’t work properly, either. This is a very big issue, in my opinion, so I really hope they get it sorted soon! :frowning:

I posted this over in this thread, as well: https://forum.remnote.io/t/new-rems-not-showing-up-in-search/5764

I’m a new user and have been having this exact problem. I wasn’t sure if I was just misunderstanding some important distinction between certain rems that show up in search vs. not, but it looks like I’m not alone with this problem.

The most recent example that led to me searching for this just now is that I was trying to tag a rem with “##Image,” which I created and used yesterday, and literally nothing showed up in the search except for the times I used the word “image” in text. It doesn’t show no matter how I search—via ##, [[, or even CMD + P.

I was almost certainly going to be buying the lifetime plan after my trial is up, but when functionality as critical as search doesn’t even work, it really makes me worried that core features like finding every reference won’t work properly, either. This is a very big issue, in my opinion, so I really hope they get it sorted soon! :frowning:

I am having the same issue. Even when disabling searching on concepts only, not every instance appears in search. Hiding Rems doesn’t seem to affect it either. New documents just aren’t showing up.

Logging out of the account, logging back in, and downloading my k-base again has made the searches I was looking for this evening show up. So that’s a temporary fix for anyone who needs the search feature now. I look forward to a patch that makes this not needed though.

Hi,

I was writing some text and entered [[John Smith]] and hit ctrl-enter to create a new rem. Now when I search for John Smith using ctrl-O this Rem is not found and I’m prompted to create a new rem again.

Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong ?

Cheers,
David

I didn’t find which step you did wrong, and I can find John Smith by doing what you said. So… it should be a bug

This surely shouldn’t be happening! Could you pls try this again and see if you are not able to find rems altogether.

It could’ve been a very discrete event where you might not have created the Rem due to some reason. There shouldn’t be any other reason why you can’t find this rem again.

Additionally, are you assuming that it’s lost because it let’s/ prompts you to create a new Rem with that name? because that’s totally normal as you can create multiple rems with the same string of text. If you have a lot of John or Smith in your database, it might just be somewhere in the drop down.

Kindly let us know what the case is, so that we could further investigate this. Thanks for reaching out!

I will try to repeat it but I think you have some bugs in your indexing. I’ve also noticed that if I move a rem from a parent and make it a top level rem then it claims that it is still referenced in the old parent. Both this and the issue of not being able to find recently created rems go away if you log out and log in again which I presume forces a rebuild of the cache. I’ll have a go tomorrow to see if I can get a repeatable case for you. I know intermittent bugs are a bugger to track down.

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Yes, exactly! Thank you for understanding and highly appreciate all the help in reproducing this.

Its search ability is relatively lacking, especially the Chinese search ability. How many keywords cannot be searched out.
I have a document titled "时间戳”
Snipaste_2021-08-05_22-57-48

but I couldn’t find it by search portal…


I initially wrote about this problem in another thread here. The problem disappeared for a while but is now back with a vengeance! Initially, I could fix it by quitting and restarting RemNote. Now, however, RemNote is not returning any aliases when I search for them—not a single one! I’ve quit and restarted several times, forced a complete re-sync, etc, but nothing works.

Note that RemNote will not find any of my aliases regardless of whether I search for them via [[ , ##, or CMD + P. Yet, when I reference the actual rem inline via [[, click it, and choose to add an alias, the existing aliases for that rem do show up in the menu for me to click on.

As far as I can tell, it is only impacting aliases this time, though I obviously can’t know that for sure unless I try to search for every single rem in my KB. It’s very strange.

Has anybody figured out if there’s any rhyme or reason as to what triggers this bug and whether the team has made any progress on this bug yet?

I’m a very new user who nevertheless took the plunge and paid for the Life-time Leaning Plan to help support development. However, several things are still just completely confounding me. The most frustrating one recently is that I do not understand why certain rems won’t show up when I search for them.

For example, here’s one that I’m dealing with this very minute. I created this tag the other day and have used it before as both a reference, as you can see at the bottom of the screenshot, and also as a tag, which shows in the portal underneath but isn’t in the screenshot. Yet, when I try to search for it now to tag others, it won’t show up at all no matter what I do! I’m using the desktop app at the moment and have forced a re-sync just to make sure everything is caught up, but the problem persists.

I haven’t even been using RemNote for a week, but this has happened many, many, many times with many other rems, causing me to mistakenly create several duplicates. It’s been driving me crazy because I’m still way too new to know if this is user error on my part or something else. Am I missing something here, or is this just completely broken?

Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!

-Sean


I think that you turn on below feature… And Georgetown Contacts is not Concept rem… so you cannot found it…

Solution is


You just turn off this feature and You can search anything in your KB

Thank you for your response, but unfortunately, this isn’t correct. First, I do not have that option enabled, so that is not the issue. Also, as I mentioned, I have previously tagged things with this rem using this exact same procedure without any issues whatsoever. In fact, shortly after I posted this question, I quit RemNote and reopened the app to try again, and suddenly it worked!

Screen Shot 2021-08-02 at 8.47.29 PM

So, this is clearly some sort of bug that keeps plaguing me over and over again for some reason.

Thanks again for trying to help, though!

See

I’ve experienced this bug several times over the past month. However, if I close RemNote and re-open it, the problem is solved.

I have noticed that sometimes (children) Rem disappear, but when I open/close the parent Rem, they reappear.

Side note: (Once you find a Rem) always check that you haven’t selected one of the ‘Hide’ (/hide) functions for a Folder/Document/Bullet etc. I believe if something is hidden, then it won’t’ appear in Search.

Thanks. I never use the hide function, so that isn’t an issue for me. My main problem is that I keep making duplicates because when they don’t show up in search, I just assume that I haven’t made them yet. I’ll just have to be more aggressive in closing and re-opening the app. That said, I initially started experiencing the bug in the browser-based version, so I’m not sure if quitting/re-opening Chrome would also fix it :thinking:

I’m not too fond of using Top-Level Rem because I don’t like seeing the Documents folder littered with Stubs and the issue you mentioned of Rems not appearing in Search.

Instead of creating a Top-Level Rem, here’s a suggestion: create a Document named (Georgetown Contacts) - then [back]link to that. I don’t have any problems (Browser or App) when searching for a document.

@nukesean Don’t forget to /merge those duplicates to keep all links in their proper places.

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Looks like a ton of people are having this problem but I figured I’d add to it because it is a big issue and it really does need to be fixed or else the app is useless for the intended purpose.

For me I set up the rem references in question several days ago. I used them multiple times that day and also the next day (no issues then, everything worked perfectly). Then today, a few days later, I tried to [[ add them to my notes for the day and they just wouldnt show up. (even when typing the full thing in letter for letter, word for word)

At first I assumed I had made a typo or something so I went and found the rem I was using as a reference AND the previous instances of me using the rems as references to confirm that they did in fact exist as references and SHOULD be picked up by the [[ search.

My current work around is to manually copy the rem references from the original source which is problematic since I don’t have enough screens to do this efficiently and its taking way longer than it should. This will also be an issue for rems that are #stubs since I wont always know if they already exist or not. (especially as I get further along in my learnings). I really need this to get fixed because it is a key function to how I use RemNote…

ALSO suggestion - it might be a good idea to add a tool that will search for duplicate rems that you can review and merge or delete as needed. That way when something like this happens we can easily fix any duplicates that are made during offline times and or feature bugs like this one.

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