@Chinchivi I don’t speak German sorry, but in essence:
cheers
I would like to add the following:
Metadata retrieval from PDFs is not a good idea IMHO
I think it’s not at all a good idea to try retrieving metadata from the PDF. Those are systematically filled with rubbish, and have no consistency.
Unfortunately, Remnote already does this and creates a lot of rubbish in our databases… Parse PDF Metadata - #2 by _yb
(or at least did, recent updated might have fixed this, I have no idea)
Zotero, Mendeley, Endnote plug-in
From my experience in research, the most accurate, and therefore, the only useful metadata of a document is provided by library managers (such as listed in the title). And even then, it’s not exempt of orthographic errors in names, titles, or journal… or more subtle, inconsistency in the formatting of names for examples (John Smith & Smith J, are considered 2 authors, and would become two different rems)
That being said, the questions I would like to ask the people using other PKMs with already integrated zotero plug-in :
Those are genuine question. My instinct is also to ask for a Zotero integration, but now I think, why?
Thanks for yur answer. Yes, this is my problem: I tried to install the CSL (according to official documentation and all) and it still gives me the error message and doesn’t install properly. Well, thanks anyway - I will try further, maybe I’ll find some solution. It’s a shame RemNote does not have Zotero integrated just yet
Zotero 5.0.96.3, Win 11
It might be useful to have the same entity in Zotero have a load of attachments like videos, zotero notes, multiple pdfs etc. that don’t need to be synced to RemNote, but the main entity itself still is and can be gotten to in RemNote from any zotero collection and vice versa. Granted, this is part of a broader problem of RemNote being isolated from other apps, i.e. impossible to automatically sync to and from, so I’m not sure whether any app could be integrated at that level with the currently available methods.
Ideally, the newly added sources fields in beta could be directly parsed into citekeys by that future Zotero integration.
I’m sorry I don’t use zotero, and therefore I can’t provide you with a detailed method to install the CSL.
Here is what I’ve found:
Alternative Installation Methods
You can also install CSL styles (with a “.csl” extension) from local files on your computer (e.g., styles that you edit yourself or that you download from another website). In the Zotero Style Manager, click the '+' button, then find the style file on your computer.
Thanks for your reply
This would indeed be more convenient and provide greater consistency between Zotero and Remnote, which is in itself valuable.
I fully and entirely agree with your comment about RemNote being isolated. I use mem.ai for all thing “non purely knowledge based” (random notes, meeting minutes etc…) because of this. I would rather have remnote taking care of this, but I don’t think it’s an objective of the devs.
Thank you for your effort. Yes, me too, I had a look at Zotero’s documentation too and couldn’t find anything else.
May I ask what literature manager you are using? I don’t want do start a deep discussion about this here (as it is slightly off-topic), but I’m curious and I suspect that this then is the reason for the installation not working: somehow it does not work with Zotero. I can’t fathom any other explanation.
Best
CSL works fine for zotero
I’ve installed zotero to see what’s the problem, but, good news, it works. 
Have you actually downloaded the CSL this way? see below
I suspect you’ve tried to right-click directly on the remnote-markdown-v2_1.csl and download it, which won’t work 
Try opening the file you downloaded with notepad or whatever, and you’ll see what I mean.
Library manager comparison
to answer your question, I use mendeley, but I could change for a better setup any time
These are my list of feature I ask for a library manager. Any that answers that is a go for me:
otherwise they are pretty similar, I think
If you have any more questions about anything above, please contact me directly (DM)
if you find out the CSL works for zotero, please people know here
cheers
Oh my, … yes, you’re completely right - it works. (The issue really was that I right-clicked directly on remnote-markdown-v2_1.csl - this caused the error in installation.)
Otherwise: Amazing! Thanks for your patience, your csl and also your anwers concerning literature managers. (I pretty much agree to all your points, it’s why I use Zotero [shared folders for collaboration and tags, and lock-in].)
No worries, I’ll change the readme.md in the github page to include instruction on how to download the CSL, as I suspect other library manager users might not know how this github works. The goal is to be used by as many people as possible, and I suspect some users have had the same concern as you did but didn’t care to ask me about it
Perhaps this deserves a different thread, but to be explicit:
Many of us would like to have both the PDF metadata and access to the PDF itself. The Logseq integration lets you have both (see my description above). Being able to make highlights in the PDF, reference them, transclude them, and jump right to the original context with the click of a button is indispensable.
You can already do all of that in RemNote, though?.. It’s a Pro feature, but you can upload, highlight and reference PDFs.
Yes, I am aware. Can you import an entry’s metadata and the associated PDF from Zotero, in one bundle, in one click? In Logseq you can. Again, see my post above.
Interesting. Is that intended to be a one-time import or is there a way to sync the annotated PDF back to Zotero?
With Logseq it’s one-way. Getting annotations back into Zotero would be great but I don’t know how feasible it is. One-way is a good start.
Well, this is a disappointing direction https://twitter.com/rem_note/status/1494928126790406144 In light of this I don’t see Zotero integration coming anytime soon
I do like the support of connected papers. I also like that RemNote still is commited to a direction that says ‘research’. What I think is exagerated and just untrue is this: “Write your thesis in zettlr”.
Concerning academic writing, Zettlr is much (much) farther than RemNote. Zettlr not only integrates Zotero, but actually adjusts the cited literature according to the selected citation style. Also, with pandoc, it is much (much) easier to export your writing to any format you wish. At this state I do like to use RemNote for my thinking and note-taking, yes. But I would never dream of writing my thesis in it. Why? If I can’t even export it.
I like the thought of going ‘the whole way’ alltogether in RemNote, of taking notes, organising them and then write. However, a literature manager will quiete possibly always be more suited to managing literature than RemNote. And this is really important for academics (and, possible, for other people as well). And a sophisticated writing environment like word, latex or libreoffice will always be suited better for the task of writing than RemNote. So, for me… as said, I like the integration of connected papers. The rest of this twitter-post is either untrue or exagerated.
edit: Because of the new feedback-plattform, an updated and extended version of this post: Going the whole way: Collect, annotate, note-taking, writing
@Chinchivi what is this new platform ? is this an official thing?
A bit of a side note: I think your post on the other platform is too long to be plain text, maybe add titles (“problem”, “current solution” “prefered solution”) not only for people in a hurry, but also to make your point stronger,cheers
Thanks, yes, will do. Was also thinking about the post and that it is too long… but only after I had written it
As I understood it, with Alpha 1.7 there is this new plattform coming for dedicated Feedback (see February Update
